Ummm...did you read what he was saying....he was making light of the release NAV.11 = Norton AntiVirus. He was pointing out how NAV has caused greif for people for years.

On a note though. Although viruses aren't a big problem for Mac Users, I run a copy of NAV to take care of those pesky Word Macro Viruses which spred like wildfire. I'm hoping the next version of Office handles them better. I just removed 400 traces of it from our servers last week.

For AntiVirus protection on PCs though I'd recommend "NOD32" www.eset.com. It has a teeny tiny footprint on the computer and actually runs without the annoyances that Symantec has. I even recommend it over Corporate addition NAV, which I've always found to be good in the past.

f*** it.

I don't care what your reasoning is, NAV = FOS POS.

Don't install it, don't f****** look at it.

Stop trying to find a good reason to use this software. If you do, the terrorists win.

They're just selling empty boxes!

Testudo, thanks for the heads up. I'll stay clear of this one LOL

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The sad thing is .. given all those seeing the light and switching from windows .. the first thing they will prob do is run out and install antivirus software from years of dealing with PC grief ... they wont know any different and they will believe all the c*** Norton and other antivirus companies tries to scare Mac users with.

I agree with a couple of the other comments , we do need to act responsibly and not just think Macs are bullet proof .. and in a work environment it may be important that macs are not emailing on word mal ware to their work colleges.

BUT am I running out and installing Norton's mal ware on my Mac .. NOT ON YOR LIFE

Something worth mentioning is that if you work in a corporate environment, you may not have the luxury of blowing off virus protection or trusting ClamX if you're audited for Sarbanes Oxley compliance.

if you're audited for Sarbanes Oxley compliance.

eh? what the h*** is this guy talking about, is it baseball, or has he got some really nasty disease?

sox/Sarbanes Oxely: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbanes_Oxley

Still, back on topic. NAV sucks and there is NO way in h*** I'm installing AV software on my Mac!

sucks. Every time a file gets modified you have to scan it yourself. If you want to forward an email to a friend you have to download the attachment, scan it and THEN forward it. It's also slow as molasses; it took 2.5 hours just to scan just my email archive. For the average "mom and pop" who doesn't want to pass on infected files, I would NOT recommend ClamXav. Also I share files with clients. If I were to forward an email to a client with an attachment that's infected, they'd fire me. They don't care if I'm running a Mac and the virus didn't affect me; they'd drop me in a New York minute. I could run ClamXav but that would require me to open every attachment on every email and scan it. I get around 150 work emails a day. Then there's all the files I get passed on USB drives and CDs clients FedEx me. I run security software on my PC and Mac for job security more than anything. I have never noticed it running, which is more than I can say for some of the other software I run (*cough* Safari *cough*). As for hating Symantec, FWIW Norton 360 and NIS 2008 are PC World Editor's Choice winners and got great reviews. YMMV of course but Apple's produced some real losers too...ever used Aperture 1.0?

Doing nothing except interfering with your work on Mac this software will give paranoid people right to say: "Look I have Anti-Virus! Now I'm totally protected from, um, viruses!"

Does anyone remember when Norton was THE utility suite to have? System 7, 8 - maybe even OS 9 a bit? It saved a couple Macs I had more than a few times. I loved it.

But boy have they dropped the ball! Even on the PC side. I have a small business and have to use a PC. It was not inline, so Norton Ant-Virus removed. System ran faster. But now we are online again and had to re-install. Its back to being a boat anchor again and all that is on the XP box is ONE application.

Seriously. Why should *I* spend money and run software that can slow down my system, just so *they* don't get viruses?

When has anything close to that kind of courtesy ever been provided to Mac or Linux users by Windows users? Most of them can't even keep their OSes patched, and that's free and automatic. Where was their concern, for example, when Nimda, Slammer, et al were owning machines that were then pounding on my public-facing IPs, consuming my bandwidth?

If non-Windows users have problems because of something endemic to the Windows world, however, we're just expected to shut up and deal with it, because that's the way it is.

When the first true malware threat to Mac OS X appears, I might reconsider my position and run some anti-malware product-- to protect *myself*. (But it won't be NAV, because NAV is c*** on any platform.)

~Philly