New iTunes privacy opt-outs do not apply to location data

updated 11:15 am EDT, Tue June 22, 2010

Information shared with 'partners and licensees'


Even though people can now opt out of some iAd tracking data, this does not apply to location information, the LA Times writes. A closer look at the company's new privacy policy for the iTunes Store reveals that Apple has given itself the right to track the "real-time geographic location" of iPhones and other Apple handhelds. The company is further sharing the data with "partners and licensees," who can collect and save it.

Personal details are intended to improve "services, content, and advertising," according to Apple, an example of the first being MobileMe's Find My iPhone function. Although the company also insists that the location data is anonymous, the concern is that patterns in personal information could be used to trace a specific individual. iPhones, iPods and iPads do have options to disable location services, but these only refer to blocking apps from performing data harvesting, not Apple itself.

The terms may feed into industry worries that iAd has an unfair advantage over other advertising networks. Third-party apps are not allowed to gather the same level of analytical data as Apple. The US government is believed to be considering whether or not to add iAd to antitrust investigations.




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  1. bleee

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    So who do you trust less?

    App developers or Apple? You can bet Android probably does the same thing now and if not it will soon enough.

  1. elroth

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    unacceptable

    Whether Android does it or not is irrelevant. I should have the option of not having any information about me collected by Apple or anyone else. And every app that collects any data should be clearly labelled as to what data it collects and what it does with it.

    Also, there should be ad-blocking software available on iOS.

    I'm a big Apple supporter, but I think somebody needs to step in here and set basic privacy rules.

  1. andrewbw

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    Absolutely agreed

    Advertising has worked remarkably well for the 60+ years of modern media without any agency or marketer needing to know my location or personal information. Grow iAd on its own merits, Apple, not on the back of the personal data of your users. That's incredibly lazy.

  1. ggirton

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    let me see

    I turn off geographic services, and Apple collects the location info anyway? Then why have the option, if it's just make-believe?

    What's next, an ad-blocking option that doesn't actually block the ads?

    And I'm just guessing here, but I betcha I'm still going to have to turn off the iPod for landing, even though it's in the brand new "airplane mode".

  1. testudo

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    Re: So who do you trust less?

    App developers or Apple? You can bet Android probably does the same thing now and if not it will soon enough.

    Easy, Apple. App developers actually have competition, and, as such, can't be doing such things, for fear of losing money. Apple, on the other hand, has the world at its feet begging for an iOS device, and, as such, can do whatever the h*** they want.

    Also, applications have to request permission from you to get location information.

  1. testudo

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    Re: let me see


    What's next, an ad-blocking option that doesn't actually block the ads?


    Nope, ad-blocking software that blocks all but iAds. Although no ad-blocking software will be allowed (it would need to work too far down in the weeds to be allowed, plus, how are app developers supposed to make money?)

    And I'm just guessing here, but I betcha I'm still going to have to turn off the iPod for landing, even though it's in the brand new "airplane mode".


    Um, all electronic devices must be turned off and stowed prior to take off and landing. Airplane mode or not.

  1. MhzDoesMatter

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    Lets consider some things...

    You do have the option of not being tracked. Don't download any software that is supported by iAd. The platform is new and probably not currently in any apps you'd have. Don't upgrade to new versions when they come out either. In fact, don't buy anything else from the AppStore at all. If you don't buy anything else you don't have to agree to the new terms. Wouldn't hurt to turn your location services off as well. And no, I really don't think Apple can track you if you turn off the GPS hardware in settings. Even if they accessed celltower data, that would be ATT passing along data, not just Apple.

    Additionally, adverstising has always been based on consumer data. Its just never been so personal or real-time. This is just evolution of the medium, which has never been all that savory. If Apple gets into this line of work, they better go all the way.

  1. testudo

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    Re: Absolutely agreed

    Advertising has worked remarkably well for the 60+ years of modern media without any agency or marketer needing to know my location or personal information.

    Actually, they do know your location and personal information. Location comes from the location of the ad (be it on TV, magazines, newspapers, or billboards). As for personal information, they know enough. Nielsen has been rating TV shows and providing all sorts of demographic information to help sell advertising, and to help the advertisers reach the markets they want to reach.

    Grow iAd on its own merits, Apple, not on the back of the personal data of your users. That's incredibly lazy.

    It's not lazy. It's the "Apple way". Everything is 'integrated'! They're providing the "whole widget"!

  1. testudo

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    Re: Lets consider some things...

    You do have the option of not being tracked. Don't download any software that is supported by iAd.

    You're assuming that Apple's privacy policy relates to just the use of iAd. It does not. In fact, all it states is that they may start collecting and sharing the data, regardless of your use.

    If you don't buy anything else you don't have to agree to the new terms.

    Better be careful, though. The new terms can come in effect under many different terms, such as if you upgrade iTunes or just want iOS 4.0.

    Wouldn't hurt to turn your location services off as well.

    Wouldn't hurt. Then again, are we sure turning it off actually keeps the OS from transmitting the information to Apple anyway?

    Additionally, adverstising has always been based on consumer data. Its just never been so personal or real-time. This is just evolution of the medium, which has never been all that savory. If Apple gets into this line of work, they better go all the way.

    Yep, even if all the way is "Let's cut our competition off at the knees by making sure we're the only ones who can collect this data!" like they have with AdMob. Gee, nothing anti-competitive about that, since it was all about protecting your privacy, right.

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